Comments on: Review of Flying Blue, the frequent flyer program of Air France & KLM/2018/03/09/review-flying-blue/travel your dreams in styleSun, 25 Jun 2023 07:24:59 +0000hourly1By: Poulet/2018/03/09/review-flying-blue/#comment-183290Sun, 25 Jun 2023 07:24:59 +0000/?p=193951#comment-183290It would be interesting to know how much Flying Blue paid you for this article. Especially that it is clear you didn’t check anything tou said. For information access to SkyTeam lounge is not true.

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By: CG/2018/03/09/review-flying-blue/#comment-174702Wed, 19 Feb 2020 18:05:45 +0000/?p=193951#comment-174702Flying Blue is not a great program is you want to travel within the U.S. Their main partner for domestic flights is Delta. It’s impossible to book flights online with Delta and your FlyingBlue miles. You have to call someone, and then they give you very few flights options to pick from. I am going to unsubscribe from their program because it’s a total waste of time. It’s only good, I guess, if you travel extensively to Europe or other regions served by AirFrance.

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By: Berit Skaare/2018/03/09/review-flying-blue/#comment-174556Mon, 20 Jan 2020 19:33:36 +0000/?p=193951#comment-174556How do I find how many frequent flyer points I have? #219-331-243

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By: Malcolm Heard/2018/03/09/review-flying-blue/#comment-174416Mon, 23 Dec 2019 13:51:27 +0000/?p=193951#comment-174416Have been a Flying Blue member for 15 years but no work – just holidays. Living in UK, I happen to enjoy Asia so have accumulated 80k+ points. I did get a discounted ticket with points 8 or so years ago under the old scheme but not since. I find the ‘new’ scheme complicated and have been close to silver several times but 98 or 99 XPs don’t get you silver. However, I can’t really see much benefit in silver as boarding when I please doesn’t do much for me – might be different if we were rushing to get the best seats !
It seems the last trip to Asia didn’t earn me enough for silver so I end the year at 95 XP (I believe).
I will spend my points in 2020 and then judge air tickets by price and convenience to me as I am sure KLM/Air France won’t miss me and my loyalty

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By: Peter Scott/2018/03/09/review-flying-blue/#comment-173980Tue, 27 Aug 2019 03:03:53 +0000/?p=193951#comment-173980Recently started to use KLM after a break of 10 or so years. Only because they have flat bed seats in business and the same flights for me at the times I needed fly BA were twice the price. That said if I had used BA I would actually have enough after miles 2 return trips UK to Japan to go somewhere. and as far as I can see you need 280 XP points to get to gold in a year. They take 100 points off you when you get to silver and say that you need another 180 to get to the next level. Maybe I’m misunderstanding it? Not complaining about it – rules is rules but it is not well explained. Seems to be a fairly poor program to me. Flights were good though so would use again happily. The money saved can pay for any trips I lose out on miles wise.

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By: LD/2018/03/09/review-flying-blue/#comment-173247Tue, 05 Mar 2019 15:36:27 +0000/?p=193951#comment-173247In reply to Frequent Flying Blue Flier.

Agreed,
I have been a platinum member for 3 years on flying blue, due to multiple round trips between SFO and Paris, and the service is terrible compared to other programs. When you fly business, the benefits are completely useless. You just accumulate a bunch of points you paid a high premium for.

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By: JR Mendes/2018/03/09/review-flying-blue/#comment-172406Tue, 14 Aug 2018 18:13:45 +0000/?p=193951#comment-172406It’s 2018, and Flying Blue has worsened: The Flying Blue loyalty program is utterly unwilling to live up to its promises, which its customer service makes clear.

The actions of the program and Delta that I relate below are a bright yellow warning light about their service–a serious one because it shows an unwillingness to honor their compensation program even when they’ve stated it outright.

How? Flying Blue has created a systemic problem that delays response to customers, defeats consumer efforts to claim their privileges, and provides no one to call them to accountability.

Here’s why I state as much (and I apologize for the length of this):

I’m an elite Flying Blue member who has experienced what I believe is a systemic problem at Flying Blue.

1) I’m a US resident and citizen but a silver level Flying Blue after only 9 months of membership, a full-on dedication to flying them and their partner Delta. I’m nearly silver status this year after 8 months only.

2) In January I booked a premium economy cross-continental flight on Delta for late March, from JFK to SFO, but I was denied complimentary upgrade in spite of it being a stated Flying Blue privilege to be honored within 24 hours of the flight; in spite of my having that confirmed in writing–an email from an FB/Air France rep at Delta months in advance (Because their website didn’t indicate I had the privilege, so I wrote them); and confirmed by phone within 24 hours of the flight. The denial came at the gate and at the service desk of Delta, the latter telling me I’d have to take this up with Flying Blue but it wasn’t going to happen for this flight.

3) What followed was nearly 5 months of repeated emails and phone calls after refusal to address the issue, done in a way that suggests the systemic problem I suggested above.

4) I contacted Flying Blue immediately onboard the outgoing flight in the hopes the issue would be addressed in time for my return flight in 8 days. I did so using the Flying Blue chat element of its website onboard. The chat person directed me to email and then to follow up with a phone call when I made it to San Francisco. This was to send me down the rabbit hole, as I discovered in the ensuring months.

5) In SF, the Flying Blue phone person I contacted on the day I arrived said they do not have access to the emails until their email people respond (I now know from a phone service person that the phone and email folks are in the same office, visible in the room but forbidden to contact each other. Yikes.)

6) Eight days later, I’d heard nothing. I called, was told that the only thing they could do is have their phone supervisor look into it. The supervisor would not get onto the phone but confirmed they had my email. I was denied the privilege on the return flight.

7) After weeks back in New York, I called again and was told I would have to wait on the email personnel, but I should resubmit the email. I did (with all documentation and the history of what had transpired so far.

8) Weeks later, now in May, I received a cryptic email reply stating that my complaint would be forwarded to Air France. Huh? This was about Flying Blue.

9) Nothing happened for weeks more, in spite of my calling repeatedly and the phone people throwing up their hands because, they said, they could do nothing. Only the email people could respond–the very people they sent me to. Their supervisors would not get on the phone; and when one supervisor said he could do nothing without evidence–relayed that response–I offered it but he refused to give out an email for him.. By then I’d spent hours of my time. I began to reconsider my loyalty to Flying Blue.

10) On July 12, nearly 4 months since my flights in late March, I received an email from Flying Blue, stating that they were sorry for the lack of service and the long delay in responding; they would forward the matter to “the relevant” authorities.

11) I responded that this is really beyond the pale. This was their responsibility. They’d instituted a system of phone service and email service that defeated customers from contacting them continuously and from anyone taking full responsibility. I was considering spending out my Flying Blue miles and dedicating myself to flights other than Air France, KLM, and Delta. I asked for compensation for my time–a fair amount given the amount of time and the breach in trust and denial of stated privilege (along the way, I had some who denied this was ever a privilege. It was and is: it was listed on the FB website until it was scrubbed for their April 1 change in the program. It was confirmed with me last week in writing from a Delta person.) I gave FB until the end of the month, August 1, to make good, at which point I’d email you folks and others, hoping you’d take this matter up on your websites, Facebook, twitter, and instagram postings–about the service, not about my case.

12) When August 1 rolled around, nothing happened save one thing: on about August 2, someone from Delta called and then emailed me. The email confirmed this was my privilege and I was denied it. The agent, Samantha Clark, and I spoke last week: She’d been given, it turns out, partial information by Flying Blue, told only that on one flight I was denied a privilege, not two; and told nothing of what had transpired. She added FB miles to my account, said that if she were me, she “would have been livid.” She said the more serious need for redress and compensation was not something Delta could handle. That was on Flying Blue. (I think this is likely not as black and white as she states, that Delta’s involvement with Flying Blue in the US is greater than this, but frankly I do not know.)

12) In sum, this is a systemic problem that delays response, defeats consumer efforts to claim their privileges, and has no one to call them to accountability.

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By: Ed/2018/03/09/review-flying-blue/#comment-172212Tue, 26 Jun 2018 14:23:46 +0000/?p=193951#comment-172212Flying Blue looks interesting from the surface and might be OK if you book a Promo Award, but for any regular flight I would be surprised if you ever find a good deal. The ‘administrative cost’ they charge you for transferring miles from one account to another is simply ridiculous. My brother-in-law has plenty miles and offered to donate part of them to me when I wanted to book a flight with my family from Europe to the Middle East. The ‘administrative fee’ they charge for the donation was more than the total cost of the ticket if you would buy it directly instead of with miles!! If that is not a rip off I don’t know what is.

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By: Schulz/2018/03/09/review-flying-blue/#comment-156580Mon, 14 May 2018 23:34:30 +0000/?p=193951#comment-156580Air France and KLM are cooperating very closely on flights to and from USA with Delta. Flying blue however doesn’t provide the adequate service for those connections, like lounge access in US. This is definitely a big miss.

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By: j williams/2018/03/09/review-flying-blue/#comment-128534Sat, 24 Mar 2018 14:55:04 +0000/?p=193951#comment-128534could not spend my flying blue miles on hotel stays in australia so after 20months my points expired will not fly with them again in business class prefer BA

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